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Techmeme: Anthropic says Claude subscriptions will no longer cover usage on third-party tools like OpenClaw starting April 4 at 12pm PT, to better manage capacity (Jay Peters/The Verge)
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Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw | Hacker News
There seem to be a ton of people who don't understand how subscription services work. Every single one of them oversells their capacity. The power users that use the services a lot are subsidized by those who don't use it as much, which tends to be the vast majority of the user base. OpenClaw is an autonomous power user. The growing adoption of this walking attack surface was either going to A) cause the cost of Claude to go up or B) get banned to protect the price of the service for actual users. What you're saying is conceptually true for subscription services in general, but thats not why they are making this change. There's a 5 hour limit and a weekly limit. Those are hard token limits. Everyone on a plan pays for the max set of tokens in that plan. The limits manage capacity. The solution to that isn't a change of ToS, it's adjusting the limits.In other words this is about Anthropic subsidizing their own tools to keep people on their platform. OpenClaw is just a good cover story for that. You can maximize plans just as easily w/ /loop. I do it all the time on max 20x. The agent consuming those tokens is irrelevant.For what it's worth I don't use OpenClaw and don't intend to, but I do use claude -p all the time. This is what I've been wondering about for a while now. I have the 20x plan as well, which I thought would allow me to try some API coding - but you get zero API usage.As you said, I would imagine where the token usage comes from is irrelevant - you are generating the same load whether you do it from claude code or some other agent. So it seems like the rules are more to do with encouraging claude code usage, rather then claude model usage. You aren't paying to be using that limit all of the time.You are paying to be using that limit some of the time. There are 5 hour windows when you are sleeping and can't use it. There are weekend limits.Theoretically you can max out every 5 hour window, but they lose money on that.It's structured so users can have bursts of unlimited usage, and spend ~15% of the theoretical max cap, and that's still cheaper than a subscription for that user.An OpenClaw user can use 6, 7, 8 times what a human subscriber is using. How can an OpenClaw user use 6 times what a human subscriber is using when I'm four hours into the week and 15% of my weekly limit is already used up, just by coding? OpenClaw can't use 600% of my weekly limits. >How can an OpenClaw user use 6 times what a human subscriber is using when I'm four hour...
Anthropic Removes Claude Coverage For Third-Party Tools | Let's Data Science
Anthropic says that starting Saturday, April 4 at 3 p.m. ET, Claude subscriptions will no longer cover third-party access for tools such as OpenClaw, requiring separate pay-as-you-go billing or API keys.
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